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	<title>Comments on: Tajikistan as a success story</title>
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		<title>By: shaheen nazir</title>
		<link>http://tajikistan.neweurasia.net/2006/04/05/tajikistan-as-a-success-story-2/#comment-29446</link>
		<dc:creator>shaheen nazir</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Aug 2007 15:30:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hello tajik Boy,
i am an idonesian gem dealer,interested to purchase rough or  cut stone.I hope you could provide me information on buying tajikistan ruby.please mail at shafaz@cbn.net.id thanks
shaheen nazir</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hello tajik Boy,<br />
i am an idonesian gem dealer,interested to purchase rough or  cut stone.I hope you could provide me information on buying tajikistan ruby.please mail at <a href="mailto:shafaz@cbn.net.id">shafaz@cbn.net.id</a> thanks<br />
shaheen nazir</p>
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		<title>By: Mahadi</title>
		<link>http://tajikistan.neweurasia.net/2006/04/05/tajikistan-as-a-success-story-2/#comment-502</link>
		<dc:creator>Mahadi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Apr 2006 06:26:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello from Los Angeles
I am a gem dealer in Los Angeles california interested in getting contacts from Tajikistan suppliers for rough gem stones. interested in Sapphire, Spinnel,Ruby and other stones.
Please reply me @ ceymat@netzero.com

Thanks

Mahadi</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello from Los Angeles<br />
I am a gem dealer in Los Angeles california interested in getting contacts from Tajikistan suppliers for rough gem stones. interested in Sapphire, Spinnel,Ruby and other stones.<br />
Please reply me @ <a href="mailto:ceymat@netzero.com">ceymat@netzero.com</a></p>
<p>Thanks</p>
<p>Mahadi</p>
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		<title>By: Tajik Boy</title>
		<link>http://tajikistan.neweurasia.net/2006/04/05/tajikistan-as-a-success-story-2/#comment-380</link>
		<dc:creator>Tajik Boy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Apr 2006 15:10:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ataman,

Thanks, your input is highly valued as it offers our readers a different (perhaps less biased?) angle  to look at things.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ataman,</p>
<p>Thanks, your input is highly valued as it offers our readers a different (perhaps less biased?) angle  to look at things.</p>
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		<title>By: Ataman Rakin</title>
		<link>http://tajikistan.neweurasia.net/2006/04/05/tajikistan-as-a-success-story-2/#comment-378</link>
		<dc:creator>Ataman Rakin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Apr 2006 12:02:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What I described was meant to be neither positive or negative but a number of factors that determine scoial-economic reality and dynamics in Tajikistan today.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What I described was meant to be neither positive or negative but a number of factors that determine scoial-economic reality and dynamics in Tajikistan today.</p>
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		<title>By: Global Voices Online &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Voices from Central Asia and the Caucasus</title>
		<link>http://tajikistan.neweurasia.net/2006/04/05/tajikistan-as-a-success-story-2/#comment-362</link>
		<dc:creator>Global Voices Online &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Voices from Central Asia and the Caucasus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Apr 2006 01:35:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Tajikistan: Ailoyros is a Russian visiting Tajikistan. In his latest post he offers some immediate impressions and a brief idea about the cost of everything. All in all, he doesn&#8217;t seem to impressed, but meanwhile he promises to provide more details on his trip. Tajik Boy of neweurasia is happy about a recent speech by US ambassador Hoagland. Tajik Boy shares the ambassador&#8217;s optimism and thinks that Tajikistan&#8217;s greatest resource is its people. The double blow of unexpected independence and civil war in the 1990s has, fortunately, made the Tajiks stronger as a nation. The comments to the post also contain interesting information. As usual, Dushanbe Pictures by Erik Petersson has great photos from Tajikistan on its front page, this time from the recent Navruz celebrations. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] Tajikistan: Ailoyros is a Russian visiting Tajikistan. In his latest post he offers some immediate impressions and a brief idea about the cost of everything. All in all, he doesn&#8217;t seem to impressed, but meanwhile he promises to provide more details on his trip. Tajik Boy of neweurasia is happy about a recent speech by US ambassador Hoagland. Tajik Boy shares the ambassador&#8217;s optimism and thinks that Tajikistan&#8217;s greatest resource is its people. The double blow of unexpected independence and civil war in the 1990s has, fortunately, made the Tajiks stronger as a nation. The comments to the post also contain interesting information. As usual, Dushanbe Pictures by Erik Petersson has great photos from Tajikistan on its front page, this time from the recent Navruz celebrations. [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Tajik Boy</title>
		<link>http://tajikistan.neweurasia.net/2006/04/05/tajikistan-as-a-success-story-2/#comment-357</link>
		<dc:creator>Tajik Boy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Apr 2006 16:23:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Clarification: ...."However, the role OF  Russia in TAJIKISTAN is hardly of any economic value." This is what I meant originally.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Clarification: &#8230;.&#8221;However, the role OF  Russia in TAJIKISTAN is hardly of any economic value.&#8221; This is what I meant originally.</p>
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		<title>By: Tajik Boy</title>
		<link>http://tajikistan.neweurasia.net/2006/04/05/tajikistan-as-a-success-story-2/#comment-344</link>
		<dc:creator>Tajik Boy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Apr 2006 15:16:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>James/Ataman

I seriously do not want to sound blindly optimistic about the prospects of Tajikistan but I do believe in what I say but according to the latest developments, I do have grounds to believe in Tajikistan. 

Of course my opinion could be somewhat biased since I was born there, but I am quite open for discussions should you have a different opinion.

In this particular case however I tend to agree with you both. I think at its current stage the country is overly reliant on Russia economically (guest workers in Russia, Tajik plants sold for a penny to Russians, etc.). This may not be the best choice since open economic and stable political situation could add up to a lot more in country's prosperity.

That said I do not underestimate the importance of Russia as a military/security support in Tajikistan. However, the role in Russia is hardly of any economic value.

I think the economic growth in the country is underestimated (and yes Ataman, you are right here: because of remmitances and drug money). I also agree that many talented Tajiks have left the country. 

However, this is changing now. Many Tajiks who have studied and lived abroad are willing to come back home and start re-building the country if they are let to freely do so. I think in the next few years you will see an influx of brains back to the country (be it with international corporations or on their own).

The bottom line is that education and liberal political and economic conditions should be in the center of attention for the current government.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>James/Ataman</p>
<p>I seriously do not want to sound blindly optimistic about the prospects of Tajikistan but I do believe in what I say but according to the latest developments, I do have grounds to believe in Tajikistan. </p>
<p>Of course my opinion could be somewhat biased since I was born there, but I am quite open for discussions should you have a different opinion.</p>
<p>In this particular case however I tend to agree with you both. I think at its current stage the country is overly reliant on Russia economically (guest workers in Russia, Tajik plants sold for a penny to Russians, etc.). This may not be the best choice since open economic and stable political situation could add up to a lot more in country&#8217;s prosperity.</p>
<p>That said I do not underestimate the importance of Russia as a military/security support in Tajikistan. However, the role in Russia is hardly of any economic value.</p>
<p>I think the economic growth in the country is underestimated (and yes Ataman, you are right here: because of remmitances and drug money). I also agree that many talented Tajiks have left the country. </p>
<p>However, this is changing now. Many Tajiks who have studied and lived abroad are willing to come back home and start re-building the country if they are let to freely do so. I think in the next few years you will see an influx of brains back to the country (be it with international corporations or on their own).</p>
<p>The bottom line is that education and liberal political and economic conditions should be in the center of attention for the current government.</p>
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		<title>By: Ataman Rakin</title>
		<link>http://tajikistan.neweurasia.net/2006/04/05/tajikistan-as-a-success-story-2/#comment-340</link>
		<dc:creator>Ataman Rakin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Apr 2006 08:25:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is a quite interesting country indeed. The situation when I first went to the country in 1998 (Isfara was the first place I visited in Taj) and that in 2002 very different, yes. My impression is that things in Taj started to pick up again in 1999 and in 2001.

1999 because then, the economy in some parts of Russia started to take off again and so did the demand for labor, leading to the ‘mardikor’ phenomenon: the Tajik migrant workers who send remittances home. That, more than any international aid programme, has been a boost for local economies (also a source of brain drain but anayway); you can actually see that in a number of villages (most ‘mardikor’ come from the villages) that were kind of revitalised with remittances (like in Morocco or parts of Turkey); they also led to a demand and development of financial services such as Western Union, Moneygram, etc. there were Tajikistan long had none.

2001 because of: a) the de facto end of the war; imo, the Tajik civil war did not ended with the 1997 peace and power-sharing agreement but lasted in some parts of the country until mid-2001 e.g. the separatist coup attempt by ex-Popular Front/Tashkent-backed polkovnik Mahmud in Sugd/Leninabad in 1999; UTO renegades (Mullo Abdullo, Rakhman Hitler, Ravzon, … ) who were active in the Romit and Darband/Komsomolabad area until well into 2001, … ; b) new confidence due to the changes in Northern Afghanistan and the *relative* calm there now (Qunduz/Taloqan/Faizabad area).

This said, we should keep in mind that the smart *official* economic growth stats for Tajikistan (9.1% in 2002, almost 10 in 2003) are only part of the picture.The bulk of the country’s *offcial* GDP still comes from two sectors: a) cotton; b) the aluminium plant in Regar/Tursunzade, both of whom are controlled by certain power clans. And the social conditions in the cotton sector, for example, are dire (some parts of the Vakhsh valley, for example).

Also, I know that construction is taking off and that real estate prices in Dushanbe have gone up sharply over the last couple of years; that could be an indicator but could also mean that there is a lot of illicit money (war from profiteers, drug traffic, …) that has to be ‘recycled’ somehow and one of the ways to do that is to invest in real estate.

And yes I think we can all agree than abundance of natural resources (oil, gas, copper, gold, …) do not mean ‘stability’ and ‘prosperity’, at least not for the bulk of the population. 

Some countries transcended raw material over-dependency in time by diversing their economies, eg. the Netherlands (natural gas) and Norway (North Sea oil) in the early ‘60s, Qatar and Dubai who are ‘recycling’ themselves into finance and trade centres since the ‘90s. But all in all, there is a direct link between raw material richess and instability, geopolitical rivalry, institutionalised corruption and huge social-economic gaps. Examples galore. 

"I say that because I lived in a city that was devastated by war and I saw how it was rebuilt in a mere two years by the very people who lived there."

Kurgantyube? Kulyab?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is a quite interesting country indeed. The situation when I first went to the country in 1998 (Isfara was the first place I visited in Taj) and that in 2002 very different, yes. My impression is that things in Taj started to pick up again in 1999 and in 2001.</p>
<p>1999 because then, the economy in some parts of Russia started to take off again and so did the demand for labor, leading to the ‘mardikor’ phenomenon: the Tajik migrant workers who send remittances home. That, more than any international aid programme, has been a boost for local economies (also a source of brain drain but anayway); you can actually see that in a number of villages (most ‘mardikor’ come from the villages) that were kind of revitalised with remittances (like in Morocco or parts of Turkey); they also led to a demand and development of financial services such as Western Union, Moneygram, etc. there were Tajikistan long had none.</p>
<p>2001 because of: a) the de facto end of the war; imo, the Tajik civil war did not ended with the 1997 peace and power-sharing agreement but lasted in some parts of the country until mid-2001 e.g. the separatist coup attempt by ex-Popular Front/Tashkent-backed polkovnik Mahmud in Sugd/Leninabad in 1999; UTO renegades (Mullo Abdullo, Rakhman Hitler, Ravzon, … ) who were active in the Romit and Darband/Komsomolabad area until well into 2001, … ; b) new confidence due to the changes in Northern Afghanistan and the *relative* calm there now (Qunduz/Taloqan/Faizabad area).</p>
<p>This said, we should keep in mind that the smart *official* economic growth stats for Tajikistan (9.1% in 2002, almost 10 in 2003) are only part of the picture.The bulk of the country’s *offcial* GDP still comes from two sectors: a) cotton; b) the aluminium plant in Regar/Tursunzade, both of whom are controlled by certain power clans. And the social conditions in the cotton sector, for example, are dire (some parts of the Vakhsh valley, for example).</p>
<p>Also, I know that construction is taking off and that real estate prices in Dushanbe have gone up sharply over the last couple of years; that could be an indicator but could also mean that there is a lot of illicit money (war from profiteers, drug traffic, …) that has to be ‘recycled’ somehow and one of the ways to do that is to invest in real estate.</p>
<p>And yes I think we can all agree than abundance of natural resources (oil, gas, copper, gold, …) do not mean ‘stability’ and ‘prosperity’, at least not for the bulk of the population. </p>
<p>Some countries transcended raw material over-dependency in time by diversing their economies, eg. the Netherlands (natural gas) and Norway (North Sea oil) in the early ‘60s, Qatar and Dubai who are ‘recycling’ themselves into finance and trade centres since the ‘90s. But all in all, there is a direct link between raw material richess and instability, geopolitical rivalry, institutionalised corruption and huge social-economic gaps. Examples galore. </p>
<p>&#8220;I say that because I lived in a city that was devastated by war and I saw how it was rebuilt in a mere two years by the very people who lived there.&#8221;</p>
<p>Kurgantyube? Kulyab?</p>
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		<title>By: Global Voices Online &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Tajikistan: Bright Future</title>
		<link>http://tajikistan.neweurasia.net/2006/04/05/tajikistan-as-a-success-story-2/#comment-336</link>
		<dc:creator>Global Voices Online &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Tajikistan: Bright Future</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Apr 2006 03:16:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] &#8220;Tajik Boy&#8221; comments on US Ambassador to Tajikistan Richard Hoagland&#8217;s remark that Tajikistan is a success story and says that he thinks the country has a bright future in store. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] &#8220;Tajik Boy&#8221; comments on US Ambassador to Tajikistan Richard Hoagland&#8217;s remark that Tajikistan is a success story and says that he thinks the country has a bright future in store. [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: James</title>
		<link>http://tajikistan.neweurasia.net/2006/04/05/tajikistan-as-a-success-story-2/#comment-335</link>
		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Apr 2006 01:52:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know this is an old argument, but small countries not as rich in resources like Tajikistan are at an advantage, to a certain extent.  They don't have all the baggage that goes with natural resources like oil.  Small countries are forced to have very smart economic policies and open markets, or else they have no hope of being prosperous because of their size alone.  Finally, without the resources to fight over, countries like Russia, China, and the US are more apt to work together instead of engage in geopolitical turf wars.

So you may be right TB, perhaps Tajikistan has the brightest future in the region.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know this is an old argument, but small countries not as rich in resources like Tajikistan are at an advantage, to a certain extent.  They don&#8217;t have all the baggage that goes with natural resources like oil.  Small countries are forced to have very smart economic policies and open markets, or else they have no hope of being prosperous because of their size alone.  Finally, without the resources to fight over, countries like Russia, China, and the US are more apt to work together instead of engage in geopolitical turf wars.</p>
<p>So you may be right TB, perhaps Tajikistan has the brightest future in the region.</p>
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