Comments on: Gorno-Badakhshan Separatism Concerns

By: Vadim

Vadim — Sat, 19 May 2007 05:55:02 +0000

Well Guljonak,

No one is making fun of the Pamiris. People have different opinions and in your turn you can do nothing but express your opinion. Please, don’t be angry because its just a discussion.

By: Guljonak

Guljonak — Sat, 19 May 2007 00:21:03 +0000

He everybody
Very interesting article I see. What the hell are you guys talking about I am Tajik girl who is from Pamir therefore in Tajikistan I’ll be considered as Tajik from Pamir but outside I am Tajik so shut your freaking mouths up. We are all one nation so what if we have different language or religion. Our government is Democratic therefore we have the freedom of religion. I am sick and tired off everyone who thinks of Pamir ppl as none Tajiks especially after Civil War. I mean you guys are the one who criticize us make fun of our Pamiris the one’s who have accent which is not their fault the language that they have naturally makes them to speak Tajik with accent. We are living in 21 century we should talk about the prosperity of our Tajikistan but not argue about separation of the regions that�s so STUPED. God that�s even not possible

By: Vadim

Vadim — Mon, 07 May 2007 04:58:01 +0000

Well Vizhejoon I’m glad that I made you laugh. Actually it is a complicated topic and it would be great if you write a post about it and then we can discuss it. This post is about Separatism concerns in Gorno-Badakhshan and Samarkand-Bukhara issue has no relation to this topic.

By: vizhejoon

vizhejoon — Sat, 05 May 2007 19:21:15 +0000

Vadim - all i can say to you is - ha-ha. You may be able to tell me straight in the face that i’m wrong, but you CANNOT contradict the facts of history. You answered me yourself - are “no longer” and ” PROBABLY one can argue that they never were” You said it. Probably. But i will argue.

“The people of these two cities and some other territories made their historical choice.”

You gave me the laugh of my day. And so you are trying to tell me that the corrupt APPARATCHIKS who unfairly gave these two cities to the uzbek territory are considered as the “The people of these two cities and some other territories”. Aha, was I there? Were all the tajiks there when this choice was made? Were all the bukharais and samarqandis there? Did they make a vote? Were they ASKED which country they wanted to join?

If they “are no longer” tajik territories and ” probably never have been” can you please tell me why they speak tajik? Can you please answer me why persian heritage is more obvious in the language and physical features than “turkic-uzbek” heritage???

And for your information - Although Tajikistan is not in a very good political and economic situation, niether is Uzbekistan. And the samarqandis and bukharais will be more than happy to be have the nationality of an identity they belong to. That is - the tajik (persian) one, an not the uzbek (turkic).

As if russification was not enough for these people, they have to undergo “uzbekification” or “pan-turkism” as well.

By: Vadim

Vadim — Sat, 05 May 2007 03:27:47 +0000

Vizhejoon,

Samarkand and Bukhara are the territories of Uzbekistan. There is no doubt. No matter what the Tajiks outside Uzbekistan think about this issue, these two cities no longer belong to Tajiks and probably one can argue that they never belonged to. The people of these two cities and some other territories made their historical choice. In this case I also think that they will not be happy to be part of Tajikistan and there is no reason for them to do that.

By: vizhejoon

vizhejoon — Fri, 04 May 2007 17:45:14 +0000

I totally agree with Vadim, Tajikistan is in no great economic and political situation, but the pamiris won’t agree to join Afghanistan niether; Kansi Afghan, i think that the afghan people already have enough problems to deal with. You think that Samarghand and Bukhara are uzbek cities?

By: Vadim

Vadim — Tue, 01 May 2007 11:50:51 +0000

Kansi Afghan,

I don’t think that the people of Gorno-Badakhshan will support the idea of joining Afghanistan.

By: kansi afghan

kansi afghan — Tue, 01 May 2007 11:30:10 +0000

THE COMMENT IS MODERATED

By: kansi afghan

kansi afghan — Tue, 01 May 2007 11:29:09 +0000

and any bosy who says that the pamirs are tajiks and is ethnically related to the rest of tajiks is a big fool lolz
no way man go and take a life they as a whole are an ethnic group of a nation called afghan
and so must be back with afghanistan
it is the right of afghanistan that gorno badakhshan be given back to them just as FATA in pakistan belongs to afghanistan

By: kansi afghan

kansi afghan — Tue, 01 May 2007 11:26:08 +0000

listen badakhshan is a region : i mean that the tajik part and the afghan part forms one region. in 1873 according to the anglo russian treaty the badakhshan region as a whole was aknowledged well in the document treaty that it belonged to the amir of kabul.so the gorno badakhshan as an autonomous region also should belong to afghanistan also legally according to the document. just as the autonomous FATA region in pakistan belongs to afghanistan same is the case with it. no way it belongs to tajiks or china or kirghyiz it belongs only to afghanistan