See? I mean, I am surprised that some do not want to understand that Islam is not ‘Arab monopoly’ per se. In CA, for example, one zenith period of Islam was during the Samanid reign, a *Persian* dynasty.

“Maybe because those who drink have a loyalty to their nation (instead to a bunch of arabs) and don’t try to overthrow their governments by force and illegally every now and then?”

We are not following bunch of Arabs, Arab has Christian and Muslims. Please do not insult 95 % Muslim population of Tajikistan if you are real Tajik (MUSLEM).
Regarding the alcohol drinkers are more loyal to their nation, who said this or it just you view. I advise go and read the history of Tajik nation and other nations, drinkers in all Muslim nation betrayers for their countries. Those are not drinking of alcohol and religious (those who has strong Iman in God and Prophet Muhammad (PBUH)) they give their soul for their country. I think you know if you have read Tajikistan history, Fuzail Maxsym. He fought against Russian who occupied Tajikistan in 1924 until he hast last blood where alcohol drinkers sold their nation and killed their people with Russian army. Now tell who are loyal to their nation.

If spending in alcohol drinking is in you view free/market economy, why spending in mosques is not free/market economy. This is as I said double standard.

Tajik clergies are not spending money in building. Businessmen are spending in the mosques. Because one of the best investment for hereafter is to spend your money in mosques. Even me, I have intention to build three Mosques. But I think we have to get benefit from other Islamic countries where in mosques they have schools and libraries. Why we are not using mosques fully rather then stopping people from spending.

Regarding our tradition in spending a lot of money in wedding and other events (such as 40 and 7 for death body this not belong to Islam these our tradition. I am 100 % in favor of stopping these events.

Last thing, I am absolutely against revolution (such as green, orange and etc.) We shall make reform from inside TJK not outside. What Kyrgyzstan gained? What Ukraine gained? Nothing just more problems for ordinary people.

Thanks

Loyality is not measured by alcohol consumption. It just happens that those who have liberal views about the dos and don’t of the society care about it much more than religious people (who have an agenda of their own and not necessarily beneficial to their nations).

“AHA! That one I like the most. So what you basically admit is that (the promotion of) alcohol(ism) is indeed ‘opii dlya naroda’”

I am not admitting anything. It is just there (and should be there). Whoever wants to drink does so. I have done it many times Trust me, it isn’t such a bad thing (if you know when to stop). People in TJ usually do.

1) If national loyalty is measured in terms of alcohol consumption, it rather indicates the pathetic state of the nation or, at least, its power elites, doesnt’ it?

2) “(instead to a bunch of arabs)” Long time no hear, that one. lol

3) “a loyalty to their nation (instead to a bunch of arabs) and don’t try to overthrow their governments” AHA! That one I like the most. So what you basically admit is that (the promotion of) alcohol(ism) is indeed ‘opii dlya naroda’, a way to keep people docile. “by force and illegally every now and then?” Pfff. What does ‘illegaly’ means after all. People have the right to overthow criminal governments.

Maybe because those who drink have a loyalty to their nation (instead to a bunch of arabs) and don’t try to overthrow their governments by force and illegally every now and then?

Or because it is the wish of people to drink and unwind? In any case the cost should not be an issue. It is covered… by the customers. That’s free economy, my friend

“Why we are not speaking about the money which our government employs spend in building their homes which by the salary which they gate they can not build those expensive Homes?”

I have to agree. This is a completely valid point and needs to be looked at separately (Ataman, would you care to write about this?).

However, your point does not replace my question (why is clergy spending tons of money on Mosques while more pressing issues are gone unaddressed?).