Comments on: Tajikistan to celebrate the 1150th anniversary of Rudaki http://tajikistan.neweurasia.net/2007/06/01/tajikistan-to-celebrate-the-1150th-anniversary-of-rudaki/ neweurasia\'s latest on Tajikistan Thu, 21 Aug 2008 04:27:11 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.2.3 By: JOHN wise http://tajikistan.neweurasia.net/2007/06/01/tajikistan-to-celebrate-the-1150th-anniversary-of-rudaki/#comment-34164 JOHN wise Mon, 10 Mar 2008 02:13:38 +0000 http://tajikistan.neweurasia.net/2007/06/01/tajikistan-to-celebrate-the-1150th-anniversary-of-rudaki/#comment-34164 again i don't understand those who say rudaki was blinded... come on... do not close the doors of ijtihad... we are still debating if rudaki was blind from birth or became blind or even as you say was blinded... rudaki himself remains silent in this regard... only speculations... since rudaki describes the beauty of nature, etc in his poems, it has led many believe that he was could see in the beginning, but was blinded at some point in his life.... we simply don't know, it will all remain to be seen... again i don’t understand those who say rudaki was blinded… come on… do not close the doors of ijtihad… we are still debating if rudaki was blind from birth or became blind or even as you say was blinded… rudaki himself remains silent in this regard… only speculations… since rudaki describes the beauty of nature, etc in his poems, it has led many believe that he was could see in the beginning, but was blinded at some point in his life…. we simply don’t know, it will all remain to be seen…

]]> By: JOHN wise http://tajikistan.neweurasia.net/2007/06/01/tajikistan-to-celebrate-the-1150th-anniversary-of-rudaki/#comment-34163 JOHN wise Mon, 10 Mar 2008 02:04:01 +0000 http://tajikistan.neweurasia.net/2007/06/01/tajikistan-to-celebrate-the-1150th-anniversary-of-rudaki/#comment-34163 come on man, how can you say nasr was influenced by rudaki? this is outrageous... nasr was converted to ismailism by nasafi, an ismaili missionary from central asia... it is true that nasr's son toppled him and massacred the ismailis of central asia, and nasafi was executed in 943 in bukhara... nasr died a few months after him... many say he was sick... but to return to rudaki, again we are an a shaky ground to suggest that he was an ismaili or qarmati... he in fact fell out of nasr's favour and died before the general massacre of the ismailis began... rudaki died two years before nasr and nasafi... you are again right to say that nasr loved rudaki's poems... remember his famous 'buyi juyi muliyun' told by nizami arudi... anyway, debates are interesting here... i will come back later... ba bye come on man, how can you say nasr was influenced by rudaki? this is outrageous… nasr was converted to ismailism by nasafi, an ismaili missionary from central asia… it is true that nasr’s son toppled him and massacred the ismailis of central asia, and nasafi was executed in 943 in bukhara… nasr died a few months after him… many say he was sick… but to return to rudaki, again we are an a shaky ground to suggest that he was an ismaili or qarmati… he in fact fell out of nasr’s favour and died before the general massacre of the ismailis began… rudaki died two years before nasr and nasafi… you are again right to say that nasr loved rudaki’s poems… remember his famous ‘buyi juyi muliyun’ told by nizami arudi… anyway, debates are interesting here… i will come back later… ba bye

]]> By: JOHN wise http://tajikistan.neweurasia.net/2007/06/01/tajikistan-to-celebrate-the-1150th-anniversary-of-rudaki/#comment-34126 JOHN wise Tue, 04 Mar 2008 11:19:19 +0000 http://tajikistan.neweurasia.net/2007/06/01/tajikistan-to-celebrate-the-1150th-anniversary-of-rudaki/#comment-34126 we know nothing about rudaki and his religious views... it would be safer if you did not remark on them... we have only 1000 bayts that have survived, the rest did not reach us... in these 1000 bayts he mostly praises wine, wisdom, love, and the samanid prince... he complains of his rough time and old age... i don't understand why people believe rudaki was an ismaili... only ignorant people would say that... rudaki served an ismaili prince, nasr b. ahmad, but except praising him, he says nothing that brings him close to ismailism... we know nothing about rudaki and his religious views… it would be safer if you did not remark on them… we have only 1000 bayts that have survived, the rest did not reach us… in these 1000 bayts he mostly praises wine, wisdom, love, and the samanid prince… he complains of his rough time and old age… i don’t understand why people believe rudaki was an ismaili… only ignorant people would say that… rudaki served an ismaili prince, nasr b. ahmad, but except praising him, he says nothing that brings him close to ismailism…

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]]> By: Vadim http://tajikistan.neweurasia.net/2007/06/01/tajikistan-to-celebrate-the-1150th-anniversary-of-rudaki/#comment-21940 Vadim Sat, 02 Jun 2007 07:28:06 +0000 http://tajikistan.neweurasia.net/2007/06/01/tajikistan-to-celebrate-the-1150th-anniversary-of-rudaki/#comment-21940 Leila, Nick is right. Rudaki was blinded for practice of Ismailism. Someone can argue that it was not like that but many historians say that the Samanid ruler Nasr bin Ahmed accepted Ismailism with the help of Rudaki. Nasr was a "fan" of Rudaki's writings. After that Nasr was overthrown by his son and all Ismailis were persecuted together with Rudaki. No matter what was his religious background he is accepted in the Persian speaking countries as a great poet and a founder of classic Persian (Tajik) literature. Leila,

Nick is right. Rudaki was blinded for practice of Ismailism. Someone can argue that it was not like that but many historians say that the Samanid ruler Nasr bin Ahmed accepted Ismailism with the help of Rudaki. Nasr was a “fan” of Rudaki’s writings. After that Nasr was overthrown by his son and all Ismailis were persecuted together with Rudaki.

No matter what was his religious background he is accepted in the Persian speaking countries as a great poet and a founder of classic Persian (Tajik) literature.

]]> By: Tajik Boy http://tajikistan.neweurasia.net/2007/06/01/tajikistan-to-celebrate-the-1150th-anniversary-of-rudaki/#comment-21874 Tajik Boy Sat, 02 Jun 2007 00:30:44 +0000 http://tajikistan.neweurasia.net/2007/06/01/tajikistan-to-celebrate-the-1150th-anniversary-of-rudaki/#comment-21874 My childhood textbook version: Yes, Rudaki was blinded as a punishment (by rubbing small metal particled in his eyes) because he criticized the ruler who he worked for in his writings. Or refused to praise him... My childhood textbook version:

Yes, Rudaki was blinded as a punishment (by rubbing small metal particled in his eyes) because he criticized the ruler who he worked for in his writings. Or refused to praise him…

]]> By: A Second Hand Conjecture » News Brief, Been Caught Stealing, Once, When I Was Five Edition http://tajikistan.neweurasia.net/2007/06/01/tajikistan-to-celebrate-the-1150th-anniversary-of-rudaki/#comment-21859 A Second Hand Conjecture » News Brief, Been Caught Stealing, Once, When I Was Five Edition Fri, 01 Jun 2007 22:43:51 +0000 http://tajikistan.neweurasia.net/2007/06/01/tajikistan-to-celebrate-the-1150th-anniversary-of-rudaki/#comment-21859 [...] Rudaki, the greatest poet you never heard of. Tajikistan just celebrated his 1150th [...] […] Rudaki, the greatest poet you never heard of. Tajikistan just celebrated his 1150th […]

]]> By: The Conjecturer » News Brief, Been Caught Stealing, Once, When I Was Five Edition http://tajikistan.neweurasia.net/2007/06/01/tajikistan-to-celebrate-the-1150th-anniversary-of-rudaki/#comment-21858 The Conjecturer » News Brief, Been Caught Stealing, Once, When I Was Five Edition Fri, 01 Jun 2007 22:41:58 +0000 http://tajikistan.neweurasia.net/2007/06/01/tajikistan-to-celebrate-the-1150th-anniversary-of-rudaki/#comment-21858 [...] Rudaki, the greatest poet you never heard of. Tajikistan just celebrated the 1150th anniversary of the high-regarded [...] […] Rudaki, the greatest poet you never heard of. Tajikistan just celebrated the 1150th anniversary of the high-regarded […]

]]> By: Leila http://tajikistan.neweurasia.net/2007/06/01/tajikistan-to-celebrate-the-1150th-anniversary-of-rudaki/#comment-21809 Leila Fri, 01 Jun 2007 16:53:34 +0000 http://tajikistan.neweurasia.net/2007/06/01/tajikistan-to-celebrate-the-1150th-anniversary-of-rudaki/#comment-21809 Wow, Nick, thanks for clarification! The first comment could be logical though. Wow, Nick, thanks for clarification! The first comment could be logical though.

]]> By: Nick http://tajikistan.neweurasia.net/2007/06/01/tajikistan-to-celebrate-the-1150th-anniversary-of-rudaki/#comment-21799 Nick Fri, 01 Jun 2007 14:23:53 +0000 http://tajikistan.neweurasia.net/2007/06/01/tajikistan-to-celebrate-the-1150th-anniversary-of-rudaki/#comment-21799 Actually, scrub that last comment - it appears Rudaki was blinded as punishment for his profession of Ismailism. Actually, scrub that last comment - it appears Rudaki was blinded as punishment for his profession of Ismailism.

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