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		<title>By: Tajik Boy</title>
		<link>http://tajikistan.neweurasia.net/2007/10/18/fashionable-dushanbe/#comment-32969</link>
		<dc:creator>Tajik Boy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Oct 2007 13:44:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Vadim,

I don't know to what degree what I said could be classified as "disseminating false information" since I did not present anything I said as a fact (at least from my reading of English). When people say "it is said to belong" it means it is nothing less but a rumor, i.e. the author does not have anything else to prove his point. Nor did I make any assertions as to what is said is indeed factual. I remember reading an article (in Russian) about the presidents of CIS, where such information was mentioned. here is the link: http://compromat.ru/main/ne_rossiya/deti.htm

Boy I do have a good memory (since I read the article 5 years ago or so).

Getting anyone in trouble is the least I want to do here especially considering your great contributions to Tajik blogosphere. I guess I have been out of the country for too long to realize that we still could have some absurd laws (talk about Absurdistan).


Be well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Vadim,</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know to what degree what I said could be classified as &#8220;disseminating false information&#8221; since I did not present anything I said as a fact (at least from my reading of English). When people say &#8220;it is said to belong&#8221; it means it is nothing less but a rumor, i.e. the author does not have anything else to prove his point. Nor did I make any assertions as to what is said is indeed factual. I remember reading an article (in Russian) about the presidents of CIS, where such information was mentioned. here is the link: <a href="http://compromat.ru/main/ne_rossiya/deti.htm" rel="nofollow">http://compromat.ru/main/ne_rossiya/deti.htm</a></p>
<p>Boy I do have a good memory (since I read the article 5 years ago or so).</p>
<p>Getting anyone in trouble is the least I want to do here especially considering your great contributions to Tajik blogosphere. I guess I have been out of the country for too long to realize that we still could have some absurd laws (talk about Absurdistan).</p>
<p>Be well.</p>
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		<title>By: Vadim</title>
		<link>http://tajikistan.neweurasia.net/2007/10/18/fashionable-dushanbe/#comment-32968</link>
		<dc:creator>Vadim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Oct 2007 05:49:04 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://tajikistan.neweurasia.net/2007/10/18/fashionable-dushanbe/#comment-32968</guid>
		<description>Andrew, the Tajik blogosphere is not that big yet that could attract the attention of intelligence people. But, you never know how the government can react to what we say here. There is no difference for them between traditional journalism and blogging - everything is related to mass-media which is regulated by law. These people see no difference between this website and let's say Fergana.ru or AsiaPlus or any other news website. The only difference is that it allows comments. It is one of the few websites in Tajikistan which allows instant comments. 

I have a chance to talk to journalists in Tajikistan and they admit that websites with comments are really dangerous because you never know what kind of comment is going to be posted on the website. It is dangerous because not the author of the comment  but the author of the article will be punished. It is easier to find the author. 

I don't know whether you've heard about the new amendments to the Law on media but everything that is published on the Internet about Tajikistan is regulated by this law. It is a strange decision of the parliament but that is how things work in this country. Using this law they can punish anyone who disseminates obscenity, graphic language, offensive slurs, false information and all other negative factors. 

Why do you think we do not have that much authors on our blog as on Kygyz or Kazakh neweurasia blog? People just do not want to have problems. I don't know, maybe Rrrr or Tajik boy have another opinion but that is how I see it from my perspective.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Andrew, the Tajik blogosphere is not that big yet that could attract the attention of intelligence people. But, you never know how the government can react to what we say here. There is no difference for them between traditional journalism and blogging - everything is related to mass-media which is regulated by law. These people see no difference between this website and let&#8217;s say Fergana.ru or AsiaPlus or any other news website. The only difference is that it allows comments. It is one of the few websites in Tajikistan which allows instant comments. </p>
<p>I have a chance to talk to journalists in Tajikistan and they admit that websites with comments are really dangerous because you never know what kind of comment is going to be posted on the website. It is dangerous because not the author of the comment  but the author of the article will be punished. It is easier to find the author. </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know whether you&#8217;ve heard about the new amendments to the Law on media but everything that is published on the Internet about Tajikistan is regulated by this law. It is a strange decision of the parliament but that is how things work in this country. Using this law they can punish anyone who disseminates obscenity, graphic language, offensive slurs, false information and all other negative factors. </p>
<p>Why do you think we do not have that much authors on our blog as on Kygyz or Kazakh neweurasia blog? People just do not want to have problems. I don&#8217;t know, maybe Rrrr or Tajik boy have another opinion but that is how I see it from my perspective.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Yim</title>
		<link>http://tajikistan.neweurasia.net/2007/10/18/fashionable-dushanbe/#comment-32966</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew Yim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Oct 2007 23:51:45 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://tajikistan.neweurasia.net/2007/10/18/fashionable-dushanbe/#comment-32966</guid>
		<description>Oh, I see, Vadim.  Just so you know, if you say "you have too much to say", that means, you have, well, too much to say.  As in, I'm tired of hearing what you have to say, or, you don't know what you're talking about and have said too much already.  It's somewhat offensive.  But I understand your point now.  

In any case, an interesting, and obviously contreversial topic.  We know that journalists in the mass media operating in the Central Asian republics must constantly balance what they write with their safety and economic well-being.  Could it be that this same concern has spread to the blogosphere?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, I see, Vadim.  Just so you know, if you say &#8220;you have too much to say&#8221;, that means, you have, well, too much to say.  As in, I&#8217;m tired of hearing what you have to say, or, you don&#8217;t know what you&#8217;re talking about and have said too much already.  It&#8217;s somewhat offensive.  But I understand your point now.  </p>
<p>In any case, an interesting, and obviously contreversial topic.  We know that journalists in the mass media operating in the Central Asian republics must constantly balance what they write with their safety and economic well-being.  Could it be that this same concern has spread to the blogosphere?</p>
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		<title>By: Tajik Boy</title>
		<link>http://tajikistan.neweurasia.net/2007/10/18/fashionable-dushanbe/#comment-32965</link>
		<dc:creator>Tajik Boy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Oct 2007 22:31:03 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://tajikistan.neweurasia.net/2007/10/18/fashionable-dushanbe/#comment-32965</guid>
		<description>This whole censorship is hard to explain (at least logically).  

&lt;blockquote&gt;If anyone would like to see Tajik_boy’s comments to this post just write to Vadim’s mail and hi will send you all of them. I got them and understood why Vadim did it (moderate). &lt;/blockquote&gt;

Did you deliberately save them before he deleted them? Could you do me a favor and copy me in those emails? I am not sure your version would be quite the same as original. 

&lt;blockquote&gt;if comments has a nacionalism or xenophob themes they absulyutly need to edit - i think all authors have a same position.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I'd be very careful with these strong words. Try to understand the diversity of opinions and evaluate different perspectives before labelling them.  Remember that the world is not always black and white. Those who see it as such are the most disturbing/unfortunate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This whole censorship is hard to explain (at least logically).  </p>
<blockquote><p>If anyone would like to see Tajik_boy’s comments to this post just write to Vadim’s mail and hi will send you all of them. I got them and understood why Vadim did it (moderate). </p></blockquote>
<p>Did you deliberately save them before he deleted them? Could you do me a favor and copy me in those emails? I am not sure your version would be quite the same as original. </p>
<blockquote><p>if comments has a nacionalism or xenophob themes they absulyutly need to edit - i think all authors have a same position.</p></blockquote>
<p>I&#8217;d be very careful with these strong words. Try to understand the diversity of opinions and evaluate different perspectives before labelling them.  Remember that the world is not always black and white. Those who see it as such are the most disturbing/unfortunate.</p>
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		<title>By: Rrrr</title>
		<link>http://tajikistan.neweurasia.net/2007/10/18/fashionable-dushanbe/#comment-32961</link>
		<dc:creator>Rrrr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Oct 2007 12:56:38 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://tajikistan.neweurasia.net/2007/10/18/fashionable-dushanbe/#comment-32961</guid>
		<description>Hey guys, what all of thees mean? 

If anyone would like to see Tajik_boy's comments to this post just write to Vadim's mail and hi will send you all of them. I got them and understood why Vadim did it (moderate). 

I know and agree that blogosphere need to be free from modarate zone... But - if comments has a nacionalism or xenophob themes they absulyutly need to edit - i think all authors have a same position.

I am one of the authors in this blog (Russian version) and i hope that xenophobia not will find in our topics</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey guys, what all of thees mean? </p>
<p>If anyone would like to see Tajik_boy&#8217;s comments to this post just write to Vadim&#8217;s mail and hi will send you all of them. I got them and understood why Vadim did it (moderate). </p>
<p>I know and agree that blogosphere need to be free from modarate zone&#8230; But - if comments has a nacionalism or xenophob themes they absulyutly need to edit - i think all authors have a same position.</p>
<p>I am one of the authors in this blog (Russian version) and i hope that xenophobia not will find in our topics</p>
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		<title>By: Vadim</title>
		<link>http://tajikistan.neweurasia.net/2007/10/18/fashionable-dushanbe/#comment-32959</link>
		<dc:creator>Vadim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Oct 2007 12:01:19 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://tajikistan.neweurasia.net/2007/10/18/fashionable-dushanbe/#comment-32959</guid>
		<description>Come on Andrew!!! As for “you have too much to say about Tajikistan and the whole region” - it's not an offense. It means that you're well aware about the situation in the region and you always have something to say on this or that issue.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Come on Andrew!!! As for “you have too much to say about Tajikistan and the whole region” - it&#8217;s not an offense. It means that you&#8217;re well aware about the situation in the region and you always have something to say on this or that issue.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Yim</title>
		<link>http://tajikistan.neweurasia.net/2007/10/18/fashionable-dushanbe/#comment-32958</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew Yim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Oct 2007 11:18:30 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://tajikistan.neweurasia.net/2007/10/18/fashionable-dushanbe/#comment-32958</guid>
		<description>Alright, this is my last word on what has turned into a ridiculous arguement.  You are setting boundaries.  You moderated Tajik Boy's post.  That is setting a boundary. 

And as for "you have too much to say about Tajikistan and the whole region".  Huh?  My posts are too long?  You don't want critical commentary on your posts?  

If that is the case, well, then, Vadim, these will be the last lines from me on your articles.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alright, this is my last word on what has turned into a ridiculous arguement.  You are setting boundaries.  You moderated Tajik Boy&#8217;s post.  That is setting a boundary. </p>
<p>And as for &#8220;you have too much to say about Tajikistan and the whole region&#8221;.  Huh?  My posts are too long?  You don&#8217;t want critical commentary on your posts?  </p>
<p>If that is the case, well, then, Vadim, these will be the last lines from me on your articles.</p>
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		<title>By: Vadim</title>
		<link>http://tajikistan.neweurasia.net/2007/10/18/fashionable-dushanbe/#comment-32956</link>
		<dc:creator>Vadim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Oct 2007 04:54:29 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://tajikistan.neweurasia.net/2007/10/18/fashionable-dushanbe/#comment-32956</guid>
		<description>Andrew I'm again repeating myself - I'M NOT SETTING BOUNDARIES, and I didn't say that you need to have your own website, please read carefully my previous post. I'm inviting your to be an author on this website, as you have too much to say about Tajikistan and the whole region.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Andrew I&#8217;m again repeating myself - I&#8217;M NOT SETTING BOUNDARIES, and I didn&#8217;t say that you need to have your own website, please read carefully my previous post. I&#8217;m inviting your to be an author on this website, as you have too much to say about Tajikistan and the whole region.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Yim</title>
		<link>http://tajikistan.neweurasia.net/2007/10/18/fashionable-dushanbe/#comment-32954</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew Yim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2007 18:43:57 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://tajikistan.neweurasia.net/2007/10/18/fashionable-dushanbe/#comment-32954</guid>
		<description>Uh, it was my understanding that this web-site was founded, and funded, in partnership with TOL (Transitions On Line), which in turn is funded by the National Endowment for Democracy, the Soros Open Society Institute, The Ford Foundation, and the Eurasia Foundation, all of which are deeply committed to freedom of speech.  

The subject of corruption and organized crime, which seems to be what Tajik Boy was trying to post, is very very important to the evolution of civic society in eurasia.  That probably doesn't need to be said, but only to argue that bringing up names and rumors is part of that dialogue.  Adam from Almaty Kazakstan frequently, and with good cause, posts on the relationship between corruption, the government, and organized crime.  That shouldn't be a taboo subject.  

The point isn't that we should go get our own sites if we don't like being moderated by you.  My point is that this web-site is funded by institutions and foundations with an agenda - free speech and the healthy evolution of a public dialogue and debate.  So, if you're moderating comments, let's know your criteria (and, your sense of what is true or not isn't a good criteria) for moderating.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Uh, it was my understanding that this web-site was founded, and funded, in partnership with TOL (Transitions On Line), which in turn is funded by the National Endowment for Democracy, the Soros Open Society Institute, The Ford Foundation, and the Eurasia Foundation, all of which are deeply committed to freedom of speech.  </p>
<p>The subject of corruption and organized crime, which seems to be what Tajik Boy was trying to post, is very very important to the evolution of civic society in eurasia.  That probably doesn&#8217;t need to be said, but only to argue that bringing up names and rumors is part of that dialogue.  Adam from Almaty Kazakstan frequently, and with good cause, posts on the relationship between corruption, the government, and organized crime.  That shouldn&#8217;t be a taboo subject.  </p>
<p>The point isn&#8217;t that we should go get our own sites if we don&#8217;t like being moderated by you.  My point is that this web-site is funded by institutions and foundations with an agenda - free speech and the healthy evolution of a public dialogue and debate.  So, if you&#8217;re moderating comments, let&#8217;s know your criteria (and, your sense of what is true or not isn&#8217;t a good criteria) for moderating.</p>
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		<title>By: Vadim</title>
		<link>http://tajikistan.neweurasia.net/2007/10/18/fashionable-dushanbe/#comment-32952</link>
		<dc:creator>Vadim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2007 12:50:56 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://tajikistan.neweurasia.net/2007/10/18/fashionable-dushanbe/#comment-32952</guid>
		<description>Tajik Boy, you forgot to say that you mentioned the person and his relatives. But you also know that this kind of business is never registered on the name of a person who owns it. That's the problem. It means you are disseminating a false information which is a subject  to punishment. 

If you have to say something about this particular issue, then go ahead and write a new post. You have an account. Then you are free to accept all the comments. No one will moderate you writing.

Andrew, if you also have something to say, then let me know and I'll open an account for you and you can do the same. 

This post is written by me and I'm the person responsible for everything that is written here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tajik Boy, you forgot to say that you mentioned the person and his relatives. But you also know that this kind of business is never registered on the name of a person who owns it. That&#8217;s the problem. It means you are disseminating a false information which is a subject  to punishment. </p>
<p>If you have to say something about this particular issue, then go ahead and write a new post. You have an account. Then you are free to accept all the comments. No one will moderate you writing.</p>
<p>Andrew, if you also have something to say, then let me know and I&#8217;ll open an account for you and you can do the same. </p>
<p>This post is written by me and I&#8217;m the person responsible for everything that is written here.</p>
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